For many a man, especially Black men, big asses and thighs are the desired look of the women they seek to be with. The world was put on to this preferred physique back in the late 80's when the raunchy rap group '2 Live Crew' changed the images of Black women in music videos. Not skinny, and not in the middle, the sought after frame was
THICK.
2 Live Crews "Move Somethin" seemed to single-handedly start its own
movement. The women in this video would become the blueprint for the type of female body form showcased in rap videos, (a medium heavily occupied and viewed by Black men).
In 1989, LL Cool J's "Big Ole' Butt" also communicated mens' desire for an ass that made a difference. It was so important in fact, that LL was decidedly leaving one woman after another, going with the bigger butt each time.
In 1992, thanks to Sir Mix-a-Lots ever famous hit, 'Baby Got Back,' big rears everywhere came to be glorified, noticed and appreciated. The ass debate was settled. Women were celebrated for having "back" or more aptly put, A BIG ASS. A more pronounced derriere (aka "thick") became a very elite physique, and remains so to this day.
Everybody doesn't have "back" although some do try..
Some women know how important it is for their careers, and have gone under the knife to achieve this renown feminine silhouette.
This includes models..
And even porn stars..
So before we begin, lets make absolutely sure we're all on the same page about what "thick" is.
THIS? NOT thick..
Looks nice, but this is NOT thick..
I don't know WHAT this is, but this is not thick. BREATHE hun!
This is Not thick, this is WRONG! lol..
Nor is this thick. Those who can DO. Those who can't, make fun of. Kristen Chenowith is jealous IMO, as are many women who will NEVER have the curves of uh.. 'certain others'..
And this CERTAINLY is NOT thick.
I said Thick not Giant.
This would be a better example of thick:
Gorgeous! |
One of the keys to being "thick" and not "fat" is a THIN WAIST. And it doesn't encompass only Black women. We have..
Latina thick..(her hips look suspect though, #injections)
Eastern European thick..
Asian thick..
White chick thick..
They even have a name for white girls with big butts..
And of course.. the Queens who started it all..
We definitely live in a "to each his own" kind of world, but I find that when it comes to thick women, some men won't date any other type. Oddly enough, I find that lots of times, these men themselves are much smaller than the thick woman they prefer. What came to mind was the old nursery rhyme..
Jack Sprat could eat no fat,
His wife could eat no lean.
And so between them both, you see,
They licked the platter clean.
It was these types of couplings that spawned my desire to do a little research on the topic. Why would a man of small to medium size prefer a woman who was much thicker than himself? And why - for some men - choose ONLY this type of woman? One could answer, "Because that's what they like.." but I was curious as to why. I had my suspicions, and not one to be left curious and unanswered, I got to digging. And what did I find??
STUDIES!!
Of course. Studies have been done on this topic to satisfy other curious nosies like myself.
What I came to learn after researching the research, was that psychological speaking, many men prefer thicker sized women for mainly 4 reasons.
None of which are because she looks good.
Reason Number 1:
HE'S UNDER STRESS.
"When men are under stress, they are more likely to find larger women’s bodies attractive. More fuller physical features may communicate attributes such as strength and control during periods when such qualities should be most desired," the scientists wrote.
So says a small study published in the journal PLoS One. Researchers at a London University of assembled 81 men to test a hunch (based on previous studies) that men under psychological stress might prefer bigger-bodied women than men who aren’t stressed.
For one study, they
divided the group in two, subjecting 41 men to a stressful experience that the
study explains is commonly used in psychological research.
First, they had to stand in front a group of people who were seated in a conference room and pretend to be
a job applicant. They had to deliver a five-minute, impromptu speech
explaining why they should be hired. They were told they were being
videotaped and evaluated for body language and other components of their
performance. After they were done talking, they had to
count backward from 1,022 – by 13s.
Meanwhile, the other group of men were seated in a separate room. After 20 minutes, all the men were
presented with a standard set of images of women, often used in research on attitudes toward body size. The series consists of 10 black-and-white
leotard-clad women whose body sizes ranged from very thin (or “emaciated,”)
to obese. They were asked to identify which body they found most attractive. They also were asked to identify the smallest body they
found appealing and the largest body they
found appealing. Why 20 minutes? It takes 20 minutes for the levels of the stress hormone cortisol to peak after exposure to a
stressful situation, the study explains.
The results showed that men in the stressed group rated their
"ideal" figure as much larger than those in the control
group. The stress-free men chose smaller bodies as ideal. The connection between experiencing
stress and appreciating larger women’s bodies may seem random, but there’s some
biological logic behind it. From the study [citations omitted]:
"All the men then had to rate the attractiveness of photographed female bodies ranging from very thin to obese. The stressed group found a significantly heavier body size as the most attractive."
It even suggests that women who stress their men out, push them into the arms of a fatter woman.
"Figure-conscious women who stress their men out may find their behavior has unintended consequences." :oO
So stop nagging ladies! Unless you want your man to end up in the arms of a porker.
Speaking of pork (and other foods), this leads us into
Reason Number 2:
HE'S FINANCIALLY UNSTABLE.
A man struggling financially may subconsciously view a thicker size woman and see financial security, meaning,
HER SIZE REPRESENTS [A] SURPLUS
If he can't "bring home the bacon" as they say, he might want to couple with a woman whose fridge is fully stocked. They say the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. Apparently that is not limited to merely cooking the groceries. According to the study, it also covers She who can afford to BUY the provisions as well.
“Our work in parts of Malaysia and Africa has shown that in poorer environments where resources are scarce, people prefer a heavy body in a potential partner,” said TovĂ©e. “If you live in an environment where food is scarce, being heavier means you have fat stored up as a buffer against a potential food reduction in the future, and that you must be higher social status to afford the food in the first place. Both of these are attractive qualities in a partner in those circumstances."
"In other situations marked by resource uncertainty, therefore, individuals should come to idealize heavier individuals, as fatness would be associated with access to resources"
(I would say this makes sense in terms of white men and Black mens' preference in woman size. Most white men prefer thinner women because statistically and generally speaking, white men are doing better financially than Black men. It would stand to reason that white men would NOT be attracted to a woman that represents an availability of resources seeing as how they have resources available themselves).
And from the same study, we get
Reason Number 3:
A LARGER BODY SUBCONSCIOUSLY SUGGESTS SHE'S FERTILE.
"...Generally speaking, curves to a male subconscious, coincide
with a woman's ability to conceive children. A woman with wider hips and bigger
breasts (to a male subconscious), would be more capable in ways of child
bearing and breast feeding than say, a super slim streamlined woman with a
smaller chest. This is not so for every man, though it is an accepted thesis."
Anyone who is familiar with bodybuilding knows that when a woman reaches a certain level of body fat, meaning when it's too low, she stops ovulating. A woman who is heavier would certainly be more of an example of woman who can bear a child.
And last, Reason Number 4. The reason that I always suspected and knew:
MOMMY.
"The reason men to be more attracted to heavier members of the opposite sex may relate to feelings of insecurity and seeking protection by a mature-looking mother figure," scientists believe.
MOMMY.
"The reason men to be more attracted to heavier members of the opposite sex may relate to feelings of insecurity and seeking protection by a mature-looking mother figure," scientists believe.
The study further notes that "larger size may signal maturity, and other qualities connected to mothers."
Thick women can represent Mommy to men, especially if their mothers are/were "thick." The excess body weight of a woman subconsciously represents nurturing (especially breasts), being wrapped in a mother's embrace, hanging on to her body as a child, and feeling her warmth. Being enveloped in the plentitude of a woman's form can be reminiscent of the womb. This is especially true of Black men who still live in their mother's home, were raised by single mother's and/or have mother's who are deceased (thus ending the ability to be physically nurtured by her).
So there ya have it.
Men prefer larger women because they're stressed, having financial issues, want a woman who can carry their seed and subconsciously long for Mommy.
I doubt that we'll ever hear this in a rap song though.
WTS reports the TRUTH!
As always, haha.
I KNOW you all have thoughts on this..
What say you??
I KNOW you all have thoughts on this..
What say you??
Hmmm. These are legitimate reasons for a man SUBCONSCIOUSLY wanting a 'thick' woman. But for the most part, it's based on visual and physical stimulation... definitely on a conscious level. Granted, not every man, particularly black men, want 'thick' women. I for one love all types but do I prefer a 'thick' woman? I'm not so sure. I'm more about the waist:hips ratio. A woman can be curvy and not be considered 'thick' as we should know but it's in the eye of the beholder.
ReplyDeleteMen are simple creatures driven by the physical first, the emotion second. I know there are men who prefer thin women over 'thick' but again, most men will gravitate towards the curve ratio. Even before the rap music video, the starlet was always voluptuous. It wasn't until the 70's, imo, when the ad model became thin and waif like, almost like a teenage boy. I blame that on the gay men inside the fashion industry who preferred the models to look like teenage boy bodies.
Anyways, I do prefer a woman with nice curves but just because she's thick doesn't mean she will get top billing over someone who is not a thick. There is a lot of drama attached to that arena of woman chasing. The dating game is ratchet now anyways so it's way more harder to discern if you're getting an authentic young lady who is about anything other then how much she can get you to sweat her thickness. *Kanye shrug*
Well for starters, the subconscious CREATES the conscious. Anything one desires on the physical level, most definitely has roots in the metaphysical level. Keep in mind this is about men who PREFER THICK women, not necessarily "curvy." I found it strange that men of smaller statures were unequivocally drawn to women who are much bigger than them. It seemed odd to me but not anymore.
DeleteAs for when "thick" became mainstream, desired body size has always gone through through ebbs and flows. From the ultra thin of the Scarlett O'Hara era, to the voluptuous era of Sophia and Marilyn, back to bones with Twiggy, and now back to thick. Trends and what's promoted as "beauty" are ever changing. I disagree that the starlet was always voluptuous, but I will say that voluptuous in certain cultures is here to stay and will not revert to anything less.
And to comment on your comment of "The dating game is ratchet now anyways so it's way more harder to discern if you're getting an authentic young lady who is about anything other then how much she can get you to sweat her thickness."
What type of man would be chasing a woman who is "ratchet", wanting you to sweat her "thickness?" A man who is stressed or a man that has it together? A man who is financially unstable or a man that has his financial affairs in order? The type of man determines the type of woman he "chases." The post definitely describes whom would do what.
Thanks for your comment :-)
I like your reply, thanks.
DeleteIs it me or do a lot of the "thick" pics on the internet looked photoshoped? Shit be looking too perfect imo.
Oh they are absolutely photoshopped, especially celebrities or ads for things. Finding pics of the Black thick women was challenging. I didn't want to use images where they were greased up or on all fours and that's what I kept finding. Finding images of thick Asian women was the hardest of all..
DeleteThe most insightful single article on thickness I've ever read. Be that as it may, I have my points of contention: 1) Its not only the little guys that enjoy the thickness. Many images of beauty that DONT promote ample curvy figures still can be found out in the mass media. I am aware of them but I am not more attracted to flat behinds because of their preponderance. Some things you just react to. Attraction is not a choice.
ReplyDeleteNo, it's not only the little guys who enjoy thickness, but - again - opposites attracting, I've know SEVERAL big guys to prefer smaller women. Now let's be clear, having a big butt does not make one "thick." I added many pics so that we would be in alignment on what it looks like. I am covering "thick", not curvy, plump, chunky, etc.
DeleteTrue, there are many images in the mass media that don't promote "ample figures," but I find the trend is fast becoming for a woman to HAVE those ample curves. Women from all ethnic groups are scrambling to emulate the "thick" figure.
And I agree. Attraction isn't a choice, but you CAN find out why you are attracted.
Muah!
My questions:
ReplyDeleteWhy do all of the studies refer to simply larger women and not the thick that the article is supposed to be about?
Do the thickpix look anymore like a mom than the others?
How does childbirth contribute to a tiny waist?
This is a lot of effort to dismantle what may be a simple matter. Maybe some men like thickness cuz luxurious curves are more visually and tactically appealing than bones or sinewy muscles to those who already have an abundance of bones and muscles. Just a thought...
There's more of an assortment to women than thick and "sinewy muscles." A lot more. We come in all shapes and sizes. The pics of these women could very well be of mothers, but that wasn't the point. The desire for mother in a thick woman is of the subconscious. Yes, a man might just like a bigger woman, but this post is about men who ONLY desire women who qualify as "thick." Variety is the spice of life. A man who is only interested in a certain LARGER dress size, usually falls into one of the categories listed. Don't blame me. I don't date women at all so.. *Peace*
DeleteI like petite and thin , medium size to small titties , and just normal butt.. "thick" to me does not cause any of those subconscious things talked about on here , I think the scientists just make shit up and people just "listen"
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